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Sunday, 23 November 2008

Why people hate puppy killers

7/03/2008 8:55:00 AM.  | Tim Brunero

The recently discovered YouTube video of a US Marine in Iraq throwing a yelping puppy from a cliff is deeply disturbing.

But what is more disturbing - the video or our reaction?

Because the reaction has been furious. Death threats have been made against the marine and his sister’s family and they’ve had to disconnect their phone and alert police. Comments on our article have been incandescent in their rage.

"The disturbing video warning is an extreme understatement... I broke down into tears," said Belle from South Australia

"I hope I never cross this guy on the street because I'll go to jail!" threatened Tammy from Harrisburg.

"Whoever did this should be shoot [sic] in the knee caps to share the pain and suffering that that puppy did," claimed Alex Touge Kid from Venice.

Are the people behind this outpouring of anger as fired up about the terrible plight of the people of Iraq? Are they out there protesting against the war?

In fact, when LIVENEWS.com.au discovered the video there was even debate in the newsroom about whether we should put it on our site.

Some journalists were determined it shouldn’t. Why?

We publish graphic videos, photos and reports of human tragedies all the time. Bombings in Iraq, school shootings in America, natural disasters, and torture in Abu Ghraib… the list goes on.

That’s what we do here: give you unashamedly uncensored news.

But no, apparently this was different.

It’s a scary thought, but are people more disturbed by a puppy’s death in Iraq than the plight of the country’s people who are routinely killed by bombs aimed at US troops? People who live in a perpetual state of civil war? Whose country has been invaded and where thousands have been needlessly killed? An illegal war started by the West.

Unfortunately, I think they are.

But does this mean we care less about these people’s suffering?

Well, not really, according to research psychologist Dr Mem Mahmut. It’s just that we’re desensitised to seeing human beings in pain.

“It’s very hard to take in what happens to other people without being affected by it so when we see other humans going through pain or being killed we protect ourselves by blocking out the gravity of the act,” Dr Mahmut told LIVENEWS.com.au.

“If we saw animals tortured and in pain as often as we do humans we might still think the act abhorrent but we’re not having the same emotional reaction.”

Whether Dr Mahmut is right or not is difficult to tell. Everyone would like to believe that people are more concerned about the death and suffering of human beings than of animals. Perhaps it is just easier to condemn one stupid act of cruelty than a gigantic senseless invasion of an entire nation.

But then perhaps we’re simply deluding ourselves, blocking out the possibility that to some people killing a cute puppy is worse than the suffering of nameless foreigners in a distant land.

COMMENTS

Thursday, 06 March 2008

It's interesting that people are more affected by animal creulty than by right wing governments who put as much pressure as possible on the poor. Why?

Posted by: Trevor Gramaticus,

 

Thursday, 06 March 2008

"unashamedly uncensored news"? I doubt that. What happens in various parts of the world is not publicised. Why? Iraq has changed but this not reported. Only the past that means the agenda is repeated as news. What animal cruelty? We do not know if this happened. Maybe gullible people imagined a lot. TG, elected "right wing governments"? Or self-appointed like Castro?

Posted by: james stack,

 

Thursday, 06 March 2008

i'm so relieved we live in Australia. America just has so many nutters. They would be totally for the war and totally for total american domination of the world - yet get upset about a puppy. It' sad that it takes something like this to get through to them.

Posted by: Avil Livingstone, BrisVegas

 

Thursday, 06 March 2008

This guy is not only a soldier, he is by definition a warrior! A trained killing machine, he is programmed to use violence in order to defeat the enemy and to also defend himself. He kills people for a living, so why should he care if he kills a puppy?? Human life is much more prescious than any animal's!!! Wake up you bleeding hearted stooges.

Posted by: Lachlan Hart, sydney

 

Thursday, 06 March 2008

Avil Livingstone seems confused.

Posted by: james stack,

 

Thursday, 06 March 2008

Thank you so much Tim Brunero for this article. I felt very sad to see this taken to such lengths.I certainly was not taken in by all the features about this. I suppose it is because I am a Mother of a Marine and a grandmother of an Army combat medic that have been deployed to Iraq. Now death threats have been made to him and his family! Enough is enough!!

Posted by: Kay Smith, Elgin

 

Thursday, 06 March 2008

The Americans should not be in Iraq and nor should we...our poor boys dying in a foreign land. Why are we there - Hussein hated Obama. The brutality must stop - on man, woman, child and puppy.

Posted by: Racheal Ganeser, Seattle

 

Thursday, 06 March 2008

Interesting theories but I think it's just that we got to see this, this atrocity got through the censors, the torture and murders are hidden, Abu Ghraib also got out but they covered up a huge amout of the evidence, they destroyed the evidence of the water torture. The public would be appalled if the saw what was happening, That is why it's kept secret, our governments are barbaric but the don't want us to know. And the media lets them get away with it.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

 

Thursday, 06 March 2008

Since GH. sees all and knows all. Who is going to win the football titles?

Posted by: james stack,

 

Thursday, 06 March 2008

Since GH. sees all and knows all. Who is going to win the various sports premiership titles?

Posted by: james stack,

 

Thursday, 06 March 2008

In all of this hubub over that puppy, we've seen people concerned about everyone and everything BUT that young Marine. He should be the focus, not the puppy. It is HE who exhibits symptoms of having experienced combat trauma and he deserves at least the benefit of the doubt. As any combat Veteran can tell you, war affects a mans mind and causes him to do things the rest of us will not understand. Instead of calling for his head, how about insisting the Marines get him the help he needs?

Posted by: Gary Capshaw, Denison

Friday, 07 March 2008

Your comment really made me think. You're right. These soldiers see horrendous things all day - they are ordered around and so have to take not responsibility for their actions. And we're surprised when they do the wrong thing. Excellend point.

Posted by: Albert Costa, Bankstown

Friday, 07 March 2008

How about the reality that every once in awhile there are Charles Mansons born on this planet and we just have to live whith them untill ther caught or put away! If the videos real??? You say help him,, so when he gets done he can do it again or some other horiffic deed, no.. these kind of people are F'''''' UP big time in the head and he probably gets it from his growing family experiances, hell his sister just stated something like " It's only a puppy, he's fighting for his country! ok..

Posted by: Robert jones, roseville

 

Friday, 07 March 2008

The bloke throws a puppy over a cliff and we feel sorry for the soldier ?? Are we collectively on Candid Camera? I'm no bleeding heart do-gooder but in any context - soldier at the coal face, 12 year old kid, company CEO - this is a brutal, horiffic crime and the soldier concerned needs the have his ass kicked over it. Forget bringing Abu Grabe, Guantanemo, the fact that he's military into it - irrelevent - he's just a cruel bastard. Simple.

Posted by: Paul Williams, Sydney

 

Friday, 07 March 2008

What makes this "An illegal war started by the West", Tim? You clearly dismiss history by stating this.

Posted by: C B, Sydney

Friday, 07 March 2008

It wasn't approved by the United Nations - unlike the first gulf war. Simple. On top of that it makes no sense (Saddam hates bin Laden) and has only stoked the fires of discontentment of those in the Middle East who are sick of the 100 years of UK/US interference in the region.

Posted by: Tim Brunero, Sydney

 

Friday, 07 March 2008

I think baby anythings provoke a visceral response I wager because of their innocence. If a baby was thrown off a cliff it would get a bigger reaction than woman being thrown off a cliff. Likewise an adult dog wouldn't get the reaction of a puppy...

Posted by: JB Surname, Sydney

 

Saturday, 08 March 2008

Unfortunately Hendo will be unable to help you in this regard Stackie. He can't be all seeing and all knowing because he seems to spend his entire life writing overblown comments on this website. How are we supposed to consider your opinions those of an enlightened individual, Graeme, when you appear to have not left your desk at any point this year?

Posted by: Willy McTaggart, aberdeen

Saturday, 08 March 2008

Willy McTaggart, It on'ly takes a couple of minutes to comment, I realise it took you two days to write that comment, but we are not all quite as s-l-o-w as you seem to be.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

 

Sunday, 09 March 2008

All this Krudd about dispatching a puppy. Is Australia now nothing but a pack of weak kneed sob artists? AFAIC there's nothing wrong with chucking a puppy off a cliff if it gets the job done. People are afraid the puppy might suffer? The world is full of suffering - all things going as they should, that dog would have grown up in a pack of dogs and would have hunted, tearing their prey apart and started eating them while they were still alive. What next? Outlawing MOUSETRAPS?

Posted by: regn pickford, newcastle

Sunday, 09 March 2008

i think it's more the pleasure they took in mocking the animal before it's death. There's a difference between killing something and killing something and enjoying it.

Posted by: Ray Plibersak, Sydney

Sunday, 09 March 2008

I have come to the conclusion the film is make believe. That aside, what exactly is wrong with `making fun' of the puppy before it is despatched or after it is despatched? If it was dear to som child I can imagine the child being distressed by mocking the puppy but why do _you_ find it distressing? It is one thing to say the soldiers were desensitised to the puppies `suffering` except the film doesn't really show the puppy `suffering` does it?

Posted by: regn pickford, newcastle

Sunday, 09 March 2008

so the suffering of an animal means nothing to you? spending it's last seconds spinning thru the air? that's not suffering?

Posted by: Ray Plibersak, Sydney

Wednesday, 22 October 2008

Maybe someone should throw you off a cliff you scum bucket,

Posted by: JOHN ANEGELO, Auckland

 

Sunday, 09 March 2008

Sorry for being a sceptic, but the video appears to pause and you only hear a puppy yelping? Please post the full video so we can analyse whether this story is true, or whether this is just another pathetic attempt by the left wing arm of the media to muddy the United States and divert attention away from the battles being fought and won in Afghanistan and Iraq. I'll also remind people that there are numerous videos out there in which Al Qaeda used dogs in cruel experiments resulting in death.

Posted by: Jimmy R, Sydney City

 

Sunday, 09 March 2008

It's a pity that defenceless humans aren't given the same empathy,are abused and no one seems to give a damn,yet when animals are involved it's an outcry,I don't agree with any abuse man or beast,if this person has been caught he will be dealt with according to law,those who aren't charged for crimes against the defenceless elderly is far more a crime and yet the authorities allow it to occur,why because the person can't remember,however they are starved, mistreated and what happens,Nothing!!!

Posted by: Dan Conerned, *

 

Sunday, 09 March 2008

The Puppy may well have been terrified but it was not in any pain. The trooper had it by the scruff which is the natural way to carry it. As long as the impact was sufficient to kill it, the method employed was effective, efficient and humane. U need to look into yourself to see why your feelings of empathy are so sensitive. Empathy is a vital component of communicating with animals and humans. People develop relationships of trust etc with `pets' this caring shouldn't B extended 2 all beasts

Posted by: regn pickford, newcastle

 

Friday, 21 March 2008

"But then perhaps we’re simply deluding ourselves, blocking out the possibility that to some people killing a cute puppy is worse than the suffering of nameless foreigners in a distant land." It is worse, who the f cares about people?

Posted by: n n, n

 

Friday, 31 October 2008

I for one have compassion for all suffering beings, whether animal or human. The difference is that people feel powerless to stop the war while we ARE NOT powerless to punish animal abusers. Another BIG difference is that war is "legal" (dont blame us "regular folk" for it) but animal cruelty & abuse IS against the law. Human suffering in times of war is "excused" as "collateral damage" but for animal suffering and abuse, there is no excuse...rightful indignation is natural.

Posted by: Christine Jubic ala MuleKist, NY

 
 

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