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Saturday, 11 October 2008

What's good for the Lama is good for the Pope

4/07/2008 4:38:00 PM.  | Jesse Perez
This week the NSW Government approved draconian police powers to fine people up to $5,500 for handing out condoms, wearing anti-Catholic t-shirts and even riding skateboards or playing music at next week’s pope-a-palooza: “World Youth Day”.

I know it might be ridiculous to suggest it, but here’s a small insight I’m offering up to the pomposity factory that is the WYD circus.

Kids ride skateboards. Kids listen to music. Kids wear offensive t-shirts.

Your event, if you hadn’t noticed, is called “World Youth Day”!

The problem with anything like this is you get out-of-touch stodgy old codgers like police and priests bandying together trying to regulate and micro-control every aspect of the politics, and, as a result, sucking the very essence out of what’s actually going on.

I mean how egg-shelled is your faith that the whole thing could be shattered the very second you see someone handing out a franger or wearing a t-shirt that contravenes what you believe in?

Maybe it’s good for the spirit of the Catholic kids to be engaged with some fiery competition. Isn’t that the whole essence of the spiritual experience? A bit of strength in the face of adversity?

Sure, have a police presence to make sure everything goes smoothly, but come on, let a little bit of life in!

When one of my blokes (im a practicing Buddhist), the Dalai Lama, came to town, there were protests. And good.

Protest is healthy. It means people are thinking, and are engaged and - contrary to the beliefs of most - the Dharma sun doesn’t shine out of the popular spiritual leader’s Buddhist butt. He stuffs up sometimes and should be called on it.

I don’t think there is any difference when it comes to the Pope. The Pope and The Dalai Lama are both leaders of their respective religions.

If people don’t agree with fundamental things with the Catholic Church do, like the people that protested the Dalai Lama, they should be allowed to peacefully voice those opinions.

Let’s not forget, at the end of the day, that Jesus said things that not everyone at the time liked.

Lucky he was able to get his word through.

COMMENTS

Friday, 04 July 2008

This is what passes for an opinion piece in this paper? Wow! Love the anti-catholic sentiment loaded in all the Assie press coverage, too! Talk about tolerance!

Posted by: Brett Kay, NW

Saturday, 05 July 2008

Brett Kay, theres nothing anti-Catholic at all. I don't have a problem with a persons faith - and think its good that people have dedication, in whatever religion. The thrust of the press has been about the staggering cost of the event, and the rushed laws to fine people who are outspoken or "annoying". Its all human, nothing religious.

Posted by: Jesse Perez, Pyrmont

 

Friday, 04 July 2008

Anti-Catholic sentiment? What a load of crap! Anti-draconian laws that have been enacted without any debate is the story (which would have been obvious after reading any opinion piece or letters/blogs on the subject).

Posted by: Misha Charrett, Tumbi Umvbi

 

Friday, 04 July 2008

Brett Kay, If catholics don't jump up and down enough to have these intolerant laws repealed, the this debate will become anti-catholic. People like you offend and annoy me, why can't we have you lot locked up. I'm just surprised that you didn't push for the right to burn those who offend you at the Stake, the catholic church has a terrible record, no wonder you are ashamed to have the truth told. And if the Pope really believed in God, he'd never use Bullet Proof Glass. The Pope is a Fraud

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Saturday, 05 July 2008

Graeme, you can't look up Brett for the same reason Brett can't lock you up. You say the Pope is a fraud because he can get shot? Hmmm... interesting....

Posted by: Alex Vanderpool, UK

Saturday, 05 July 2008

Henderson - you continue to astound me. Are we living in the 50's with all this anti-catholic rants. The catholic church is by no means perfect nor is any other religon but I can gaurantee that they have done more good than bad. I know that idiots like you will point the finger at a few rouge priests but proportionatley there are more kiddie fiddlers in your beloved Labor party than in the church. Any church. So by your reasoning you should be ashamed of Kevin and the whole Labor party.

Posted by: Pete M, North Sydney

Saturday, 05 July 2008

I say the Bullet Proof Glass proves the Pope is a Fraud, because it shows that he has NO FAITH in God. God's representative on Earth is afraid? This is the problem. This is the proof, the bullet proof lack of faith. If God wants him shot, then he will be shot. An all powerful omnipresent Alpha to Omega God, just can't fail. What is the Pope afraid of Death? Makes you wonder.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

 

Friday, 04 July 2008

Poor article, questionable reasoning. Some examples: 1) World youth day is targeted at the 'youth'. Therefore WYD organisers should allow ALL activities that youth partake in. 2) WYD participants have never heard any views opposing Catholicism. If they had heard such views, their faith which "could be shattered the very second you see someone handing out a franger" would ensure they weren't even there. Could annoyance laws be in place to stop "annoyance" rather than speech? I could go on...

Posted by: Alex Vanderpool, UK

 

Friday, 04 July 2008

Kids ride skateboards. Kids listen to music. Kids wear offensive t-shirts---So what? Let them do their thing and let the Pope do his.Whats the big deal? This planet doesn't belong to smart-alec atheists. Some one in authority has do decide if it is a peaceful and reasonable protest or are the protesters being just plain bloody minded and offensive. There has to be a rule of law. Any way all the best to the Dalai Lama he seems a wonderful person.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

Saturday, 05 July 2008

Desmond Harris, the planet doesn't belong to smart-alec athiests I agree. It also doesnt belong to Catholics. If there is going to be a big song and dance like WYD there should be a reasonable expectation you will get a level of backlash. Its wrong, I think anyway, to choke out opposition. Its worse to make it a criminal activity to voice your opinion.

Posted by: Jesse Perez, Pyrmont

Saturday, 05 July 2008

Jesse Perez, Pyrmont-You obviously have not read my comments. I have said that the kids should be allowed to do their thing-but people in authority should be in a position to judge if a protest is peaceful and reasonable and that the people being protested against are not having their rights eroded. I don't think that trying to present a condom to a person that does not want one, is just expressing an opinion. As far as Catholics owning the Planet-of course they don’t- and nor do the protesters. Catholics are here with the permission of the Government and they should be respected.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

Sunday, 06 July 2008

Desmond, I disagree. Its not up to politicians to determine what can and cant be protested. Thats for the people to decide. The government are representing the people, remember? Using your logic, a mad at the wheel, rabid crusader could tomorrow could say that all protests are against the law, and that would be fine simply because he is in a position of authority, and allowed to set the goalposts? Its absurd to put full trust in those who make decisions simply because they are allowed to.

Posted by: Jesse Perez, Pyrmont

Sunday, 06 July 2008

Jesse Perez, Pyrmont-I am sorry but you are showing a lack of understanding of how our democratic system works. Yes the politicians do represent the people-but once they are elected they are charged with framing and upholding the Laws of the Land. You are inferring that the people should take the law into their hands and protest in any way they feel like-no thanks we either have peaceful protests or anarchy. No one but no one should be above the law.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Saturday, 05 July 2008

If the Pope wanted to do something for young people, then how about some sort of spiritual inquistion into CATHOLIC ROBERT MUGABE, a man currently allowing his army to slice the breasts off young women. If I wear a t shirt with 'Explain Cancer God???', should I be arrested?. The world needs criticism. It is because of our ineffectual ability to rationally criticise our core beliefs that our world is a violent place. I can't enforce your thoughts and beliefs and nor you mine. Deal with it.

Posted by: Hercule Roquefort, Purgatory, Planet Earth

 

Saturday, 05 July 2008

If the CATHOLICS wish this event here, well and Good. To demand these laws to repeal our rights to voice an opinin is nothing short of a joke. If ANYONE wishes to come to this country, they should accept our nations standards as they are. EG. If you think you will be offended here, then stay the hell away. Perhaps instead of pursuing laws, the chuch could use its standing to try to reach these people instead of treating an opinion as a criminal offence. So much for exercising the will GOD gave u

Posted by: Nick Macdonald, Maryborough

 

Saturday, 05 July 2008

Brett Kay, Our politicians dont have the right to tell us if we can protest anything. They dont have the right to remove our freedom of speech. So why should the catholic church recieve the request to gag us? If the pope is worried about what people are going to say, perhaps he should stand down and be replaced with someone with a bit LOVE, PATIENCE and Understanding. The sort of thing one would expect from the head of a church. But No, not the pope,he wants us gagged.

Posted by: Nick Macdonald, maryborough

 

Saturday, 05 July 2008

Order has to be maintained in one way or another. We all know how troublesome youths can be, don't we? So let the law do what it has to do. To the know-it-alls here, worship anything and anyone you please,no one's stopping you. In my opinion not a single being actually KNOWS if their religion is true. Which makes ALL of us UNCERTAIN (that includes pagans - Believing is nothing IS still 'BELIEVING'. Cut the finger pointing and make your own 'UNCERTAIN CHOICE'. Such annoying posts! NEXT PLEASE!

Posted by: Irene Assumpter, WA

 

Sunday, 06 July 2008

A lot of these pilgrims will be having a great time in Sydney and probably will not go to any venues where the Pope is. If it is hot weather they will be at the beaches and hotels. A lot of money is wasted bringing him here as the churches do not get the crowds of a weekend and Hillsong has caused a lot of jealousy amongst the Catholics as they can certainly draw a crowd and for that reason objections to Hillsong Rosbery which is disgraceful. The Pope has done nothing to help the poor.

Posted by: sue Marshall, Randwick

 

Tuesday, 08 July 2008

Perez your article is a joke...do you think Catholics walk around in a bubble? I have seen a condom before, I have been insulted for my beliefs before, I have seen gay people kissing, you name it I have seen it. Do I choose to engage in these behaviours? NO. Do I condemn others for chossing that behaviour? NO. Someone above said the Church does nothing to help the poor. One word. Idiot. Protest if you want. It's a government rule. Not the Church's. By the way...I love your Dalai Lama.

Posted by: Catholic Bloke, Bondi

 
 

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