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Rudd slammed for getting climate change 'all wrong'

23/07/2008 9:23:00 AM.  | Annika Burgess & AAP

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A former senior advisor to the Federal Government claims the Prime Minister has got it wrong on climate change.

Dr David Evans has said the decision makers and the public are unaware of the evolving research, and are still stuck in the science of 1995.

He says the government is misleading the public on climate change, giving false facts on global warming.

Dr Evans has told 2GB’s Jason Morrison they're basing all their climate change policies on data that's years out of date.

“Since 1990 western governments have spent about $50 billion in research and associated sort of stuff, looking for the causes of climate change, looking for any evidence.

“The only thing we ever found was the old ice core data but that has been reversed by the new ice course. What we found instead was the evidence that carbon emissions definitely do not cause the current global warming.”

Dr Evans has slammed Penny Wong, saying her argument that the hottest years on record all occurred in the last 13 years, is incorrect.

He also questioned her lack of evidence to prove carbon emissions cause climate change.

Meanwhile, Labor’s multi-million dollar advertising campaign on climate change has been slammed again, with Brendan Nelson saying it’s fluffy and doesn't look at the global picture.

The Rudd government has launched a campaign to sell its emissions trading scheme with ads that show the dangers of climate change through images of chimneys and parched earth.

The opposition leader says he agrees there's a need to educate Australians over the economics of climate change and the emissions trading scheme, but says the campaign must include the fact there's also damage done by other nations, and that Australia can't go it alone.

COMMENTS

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Some have been saying this for some time. Why is it not the lead story? This can (and hopefully will) provide the implosion in Rudd's camp that most of us have been waiting for. Ask Wong the question "what EVIDENCE does she have". The answer is "NONE"

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Australia and the globe are experiencing rapid climate change. Since the middle of the 20th century, Australian temperatures have, on average, risen by about 1°C with an increase in the frequency of heatwaves and a decrease in the numbers of frosts and cold days. Rainfall patterns have also changed - the northwest has seen an increase in rainfall over the last 50 years while much of eastern Australia and the far southwest have experienced a decline.

Posted by: nina nikolic, vienna

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Nina, with respect - the issue is between cause and effect. And there is no science linking CO2 with global warming. In fact, quite the opposite. Please review further this scientists work. Al Gore is quite incorrect. A convenient lie.

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

I agree with you whole heartedly Geoff. 3 cheers for the implosion of Rudd and his band of Jesters. They really have NO idea. RUDD is the puppeteer and they are merely his puppets.

Posted by: Alan SCOTT, St Clair

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

The earths atmosphere has a number of greenhouse gases they absorb infared radiated from the earth and bounce it back up to a point then it escapes .Water vapour contibutes the most effect so if this limit did not exist we would of heated up millions of years ago. The incoming solar radiation from the sun fluctuates by around 10 percent over a 26000 year orbit cycle.This increase is the equvalent of 700 years of mankinds current energy usage ...we are going to warm up regardless ...

Posted by: Dennis Stapleton, Sydney

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Nina, what you mention describes changes that have taken place in my own backyard during the past twelve years, dams dry because of reduced rainfall, gum trees dying, some cold climate grass varieties gone and replaced warmer climate varieties and fewer frosty nights. Water levels in the dams in the Australian alps unable to fill because of reduced snowfalls. Is it permanent climate change or a long drought?

Posted by: Irwin Daley, Canberra

Sunday, 27 July 2008

Nina Nikolic,heres some interesting reading for you from the American Physics Society....http://www.aps.org/units/fps/newsletters/200807/monckton.cfm....Its all about the Global warming,Climate change,Ice age fallacy and it is correct.........cheers.

Posted by: Pierce B, Vic

 

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Finally someone is speaking out against the Governments propaganda on so called climate change and has also explained why others are reluctant to. As I have indicated previously in these blogs this federal Government is wasting a lot of time, effort and OUR money. I heard Penny WONG say at the press club, 'we have to face this reality'. What reality? They (the government) are making unnecessary and useless decision based on speculative, unsubstantiated science which David Evans has clearly indicated in his interview. Why doesn’t this Government listen to those who know?

Posted by: Phil A, Central Coast

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

go to schol learn more through google what cc is and who is responsible

Posted by: boris raf, melb

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

I have Boris and unlike you I haven't been brainwashed by all the BS theory with no proof. Everything I have studied when at school and looked at since indicates climate change/global warming-cooling occurs naturally, and always has. Just in case you are not aware Boris, we are part of the solar system and as such that is what determines what occurs on this planet. I suggest Boris you listen to what Dr EVANS has to say again and open your mind to the reality not the fiction.

Posted by: Phil A, Central Coast

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Yes, its pretty evident that Boris went to "schol"! Them teachers learned him real good. ;-)

Posted by: Max Randall, Perth

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Haha gotta love it when people try to make themselves out to be smarter than you by posting "go back to school" or something and their comment has incorrect spelling or grammer or just generally makes no sense. Maybe do some research of your own instead of listening to the Al Gore special. You can't trust everything you see or hear on TV

Posted by: Alan Kope, Sydney

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Kope, Haha gotta love it when people try to make themselves out to be smarter than you by posting something that fails to contribute to the debate, this makes no sense. Please tell us precisely what the link is between emissions and warming. I believe the post 1999 ice samples conclusively contradict the Rudd government position. Have you checked?

Posted by: Gazza Benson, Blacktown

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Alan Kope. What did YOU add to the climate debate?

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

 

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Amen David Evens! Its about time we start cutting through all the alarmist rhetoric and propaganda and start looking at the actual facts. Kevin and company are trying to push through the largest tax increase in Australian history under the guise of saving the earth. This will devastate the Australian economy for no reason at all.

Posted by: Max Randall, Perth

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

when forests are logged or burnt, that carbon is released into the atmosphere, increasing the amount of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases and accelerating the rate of climate change. So much carbon is released that they contribute up to one-fifth of global man-made emissions, more than the world's entire transport sector. Deforestation has such a massive effect on climate change that Indonesia and Brazil are now the third and fourth largest emitters of carbon dioxide on the planet. This dubious honour comes not from industrial or transport emissions, but from deforestation - up to 75 per cent of Brazil's emissions come solely from deforestation - with the majority coming from clearing and burning areas of the Amazon rainforest.

Posted by: ana brecic, zurich

 

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Ana: I deplore deforestation and pollution just as much as anyone. I am all for cleaner air and sustainable forestry, etc. But here's the point: there is no evidence of rising temperatures due to an increase in man's output of carbon gases. None at all! In fact, the earth's average temperature has decreased since 1998. Arctic ice area has increased! So, raising our taxes to cover something that has not been proven is morally inexcusable. Australia is expensive enough to live in!

Posted by: Max Randall, Perth

 

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Dr Evans what a lot of waffle did Mr Howard and the liberal party get advice form you on climate change Do you honestly believe that goverment s around the world including Mr Rudd and Penny Wong and labor party would commit political suicide by introducing policies that have been proven by quality sientific edivence which in turn will cause cost of living and make chnages to the way we live i dont thing so Dr Evans I for one am glad that we can put our trust to Mr Rudd who has to make decsion

Posted by: Samuel DiGiovanni, Briar Hill

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Samuel wrote: "Do you honestly believe that governments around the world including Mr Rudd and Penny Wong and labor party would commit political suicide..." Sure! If they don't think they're committing political suicide, but give the spin that they are somehow going to "save the earth". There is so much politics behind introducing carbon trading that it's ridiculous. You can manipulate any electorate to give you whatever you want if you frame the debate to "save the earth".

Posted by: Max Randall, Perth

 

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Here Here Dr Evans...you got it right

Posted by: Pierce B, Vic

 

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Those who assert that all the experts agree on global warming should take a look at this site http://petitionproject.org/ On thing is certain, the world is overpopulated and this continent cannot cope with the strain of rapidly increasing numbers of us. That is what we should be ensuring our governments include in their planning for the future. Even if the climate change theory is correct, the ramifications of ignoring it will have nothing on our survival problems if we ignor over-population.

Posted by: Pat of WA, Perth

 

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Yes Samuel DiGiovanni it is in penny wong and rudd's interest to push this rubbish on global warming (notice how the goal posts have been shifted from global warming to climate change to carbon pollution ) because it was a big ticket item in the last election both from a point of their beliel and the liberals (and by the way I am critical of the libs for pushing this nonsense for votes as well )and to get the green vote which was critical in winning some seats i.e. Robertson 2255 green votes

Posted by: errol edaie, wyoming

 

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

The truth will out over the climate debate, but will it out before Australia commits itself to wrecking the economy? In international terms, Australia can delay the truth becoming widely known through politics for a significant time. The success of Rudd will bolster the promise of Obama who has a similar array of policy initiatives as Rudd took to the last election .. none. Obama also calls himself an economic conservative. The reason for the faux debate is not science, but politics.

Posted by: Happy Fun Ball, Carramar/Sydney

 

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

The sequestration of carbon has not been shown in nature to mitigate global warming and climate change. Far more involved in climate change is the overheating of the landscape due to the lack of evaporable water and cooling strategies due to live processes. The safest and most effective measures to combat climate change and global warming is in vegetative cover, thereby, reintroducing the water cycling and cooling capacity of living plants. The primary cooling caused by evapo-transpiration, from vegetation, will strengthen the land-sea balance in Australia i.e., the cooling of the landscape by vegetation will bring more rain back to the landscape. There is NO other process of carbon sequestration which could improve the net water flow from the sea to the landscape than by the implementation of evaporating plants /trees vegetation. We both agree that this way could be a tedious process, however, the uniqueness in the efficiency of Australia’s floodplain systems shows i

Posted by: Duane Norris, Hardys Bay

 

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Is it possible for the earnest commentators on this page to understand that the UNITED NATIONS probably wouldn't be making such a DAMN BIG DEAL about climate change unless it had UP TO DATE, CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to support claims concerning climate change.Methinks the benighted and grasping residents of Lane Cove, Carramar and Blacktown are merely concerned about hanging on to whats in their pockets. Oh sorry, how disgustingly BOLSHEVIK of me. I do apologise.

Posted by: Leon Radjik, Newtown

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Leon - have you reviewed Dr Evans report, or is yours just another ill informed regurgitation of Rudd rhetoric? You might be surprised to learn that new information is emerging all the time. Rudd's sources are stuck back in the late 1990's.

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Thursday, 24 July 2008

Leon,if you believe in the UNITED NATIONS you also believe in the tooth fairy,get real.....and as for them looking at credible evidence and being up to date.....thats a laugh

Posted by: Dennis Smith, syd

Thursday, 24 July 2008

The answer to your question is this: Climate change has been identified as a "TOTEM" that can be used for propaganda to influence, through demagogs like Al Gore, hundreds of millions of (brain-dead), self-interested, middle-class folks, in the rich Western countries like Australia for the purpose of shifting wealth from those rich countries, over to the developing world. That will be the end result of any attempt tro tax carbon because ultimately it means we pay more for energy. Brain - use it.

Posted by: Jo Stalin, Sydney

 

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Of course the Governments of the world are deliberatly trying to mislead the public - it's a great way to raise extra taxes that go into their own pockets. The European Parliament & Inland Revenue auditors have both refused to pass their books and these are Government bodies. If global warming is so bad why did the last two conferences on the subject take place in nice, warm holiday places and not on video link. There is no evidence for Co2 causing global warming - the climate has always changed

Posted by: Gillian Swain, Birmingham

 

Wednesday, 23 July 2008

Leon the UN are about as credible as Mr Rudd and Penny Wong. There is NO proof of global warming, only THEORY. Do you get the difference between the two Leon ? The research changes from year to year month to month. One question Leon, why is AUSTRALIA the country who wishes to move first first on this THEORY ? If the UN were serious and believed this THEORY as PROOF, surely they would be putting pressure on China, India and the US to be the first to committ to cutting emissions. Gullible Aussies

Posted by: susan lowe, gippsland

 

Thursday, 24 July 2008

Mr Rudd is just giving notice to company to get out of Australia ahead of the new tax. When I was growing up in the 70s we all ran around in shorts & t-shirts has the climate change or have we. It’s all about money

Posted by: a v, Narellan

 

Thursday, 24 July 2008

So our world is supposedly getting hotter? Then why is it the hottest days ever in OZ are back in the 70's? I spen tosme years in NTH w. QLD in the 80' early 90's, still havent seen tyhe temps in this area go back to what we were working in. Nothing science in it, just what they show on the weather/news. This is IMHO just a means to replace lost income from selling everything that we USED to have.We own nothing in this country anymore, same O.S., they too have have taken the privitisation road.

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

Thursday, 24 July 2008

Nick, the problem in my area is not the heat, it's the dry; the rainfall and snowfall is less than it was 15 years ago. There are fewer frosty nights, so drier summers and warmer winters are affecting trees and grasses. Is it a temporary drought or permanent climate change?

Posted by: Rob Banks, Canberra

 

Wednesday, 30 July 2008

Despite what the Greenies and Governments say "All is Normal" unlike Al Gores False Infomation one thing you can't Fake in this electronic age is Newspaper archives.Old papers of around 1895 "Ice Age Coming" the 20's thru 30"s Hottest period in 25 years.the 1950's thru early 70's "Ice age again as it cooled yet again.Warmed up again towards the Y2K era.Latest from NASA (08/07/2008 press release Cooling again) temperature dropping since 1998.Kyoto was Enrons idea to make Billions Con Artists

Posted by: Stephen Cox, Sydney

 

Thursday, 31 July 2008

the fear mongering comes from both sides. where is the evidence that cutting back on c02 emissions will devastate the economy? its pure speculation. why is it impossible to adapt economically? the oil companies have everyone running scared,.depending on peoples basic selfishness and fear of change to fuel their agenda. you should trust the oil industry about as much as you trust politicians.......not at all!

Posted by: trevor crook, wiley park

 

Tuesday, 19 August 2008

The science is very clear that there is not correlation between C02 and temperature. So why throw away your way of life and freedoms to the lie of global warming?

Posted by: Rodney Dierking, Bonne Terre