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Friday, 05 December 2008

NSW ambos threaten major industrial action

3/09/2008 3:45:00 PM.  | Richard Maxton with Joel Labi

NSW's ambulance officers aren't ruling out "unprecedented" levels of industrial action, over a government decision to scrap the Ambulance Rescue wing.

The Fire Brigade will soon take over the majority of the rescue units, with 88 of the state's most highly trained paramedics being transferred to other sections of the service.

Michael Williamson from the Health Union says he will wait to see what the premier says in the next 24 hours, but has called on him to intervene.

“It’s unprecedented,” he said.

“So I guess, in terms of that, is there a possibility of the withdrawal of services in the form of a strike? Yes, there is.”

Earlier

Dozens of the state's finest paramedics will be out of a job on Thursday, with the Ambulance Rescue Service to be scrapped.

The move was touted after a review into emergency services but now means already stretched fire crews will now have to take on extra workloads, especially at car crashes.

Paramedic 'Bill' has told 2GB's Murray Wilton they were told of the news by SMS.

"It (the SMS) basically states as of Thursday morning at 8am Bankstown Rescue, Caringbah Rescue, St Ives Rescue, Point Blair Rescue, Parramatta Rescue, Camden, Woolongong and Newcastle will cease to operate."

He said the Ambulance Rescue Service was specifically trained and there won't be enough resources for the Fire Brigadec to cope if they are disbanded.

"We're all trained paramedics on the rescue truck."

"We're also vertically accredited so if you're trapped in a difficult situation, on a cliff or whatnot, we attend those scenes as well.

"We're also swift water accredited. We're the most highly trained rescue organisation in the state basically."

NSW Health Minister Reba Meagher said in a statement the action was intended to boost frontline Ambulance paramedics.

"The Ambulance Service of NSW is the only one in Australia which maintains a rescue function,” Ms Meagher said.

“In fact, even within NSW the majority of rescue services are already provided by the NSW Fire Brigade and other specialist rescue units.

"So it makes sense for our highly-trained ambulance paramedics to focus on providing the sort of emergency patient care the community expects.”

The decision is expected to trigger an explosion of industrial action, including paperwork bans and refusal to transfer patients between hospitals.

Shadow Health Minister Jillian Skinner says those who are left will not want to stay.

"They'd been contacted by their members, when this rumour first started, who were saying they were not going to stay if the Ambulance Rescue units were abandoned.

"So I worry that we'll have even more resignation from a service that is desperate, for lack of staff."

COMMENTS

Tuesday, 02 September 2008

unfortunately in this current climate the ambulance on the central coast is the most poorly staffed in the state and gosford has the highest waiting times in the state in the big scheme of things one extra crew which will be all this will provide in this area is way short of what is required. the state is such a mess due to management decisions such as the ceo greg rochford who plans to spend 11 mil dollars to save 3.7 mill dollars in the current award negociations before the irc.

Posted by: keith gear, gosford

 

Tuesday, 02 September 2008

Why the hell this government is not sacked is another criminal offence. Bloody Rudd should stop watching & start firing, otherwise he's as pathetically useless as these morons. The title "LABOUR" just stinks more each day.

Posted by: Alex Uren, Luddenham

 

Tuesday, 02 September 2008

Before we get in a lather here we should realise these highly trained Ambulance Officers will not be out of a job come Thursday, they will be redeployed throughout the state to enhance what is there core role. Patient Care. The NSWFB has provided rescue services to the people of NSW for decades and has over 150 accredited rescue units to the ASNSW's 8. Highly trained Paramedics do not need to operate tools at Rescue incidents.

Posted by: Fire Man, Bondi

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

Fireman,sounds very much like some prejudice here.Do YOU want their jobs???

Posted by: Ray Beck, Nsw

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

that's right Fire Man, they will not be out of a job, but I know that if I was trapped somewhere with severe injuries I would want a RESCUE PARAMEDIC coming to save me, not a rescue FIRE FIGHTER, because as you said , the core role of a Paramedic is patient care. Why does the NSWFB continually promote rescue as the core role of the fire brigade, is not fighting fires their core role, not car crash, cliff, industrial rescues etc ????

Posted by: David Gibbons, wollongong

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

Hey fire man from Bondi - you're presumably a firefighter? Let me say this - I'd rather have a paramedic than a first aid trained firefighter coming down the cliff to rescue me. Or if i were trapped and stuck in a car with major injuries. Paramedics need this for career progression as well. Just because you guys have put yourselves out of a job with compulsory smoke alarms in homes and are left with little to do. The Head review stated there are little cost saving benefits to this as well.

Posted by: Me XXX, Wagga

Thursday, 04 September 2008

You are all missing the point. The paramedics who are staffing the ambulance rescue units can't provide the care the othe patient because they are tied up cutting up the vehicle. All rescues are done at the direction of trained paramedics, regardless of the service doing the actual extrication work. Moving these paramedics away from the rescue tools and back to treating the patient improves the care of the trapped victim, it doesnt reduce it.

Posted by: Peter Ticeshurst, Sydney

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

Sure I feel for those ambulance rescue officers who, like many firies, genuinely wanted a career in rescue, but frankly, it's about time that this move was finally taken by ASNSW and Health. Let ambos get back to what they originally joined the job to do. Leave the rescue to the firies, who, let's face it, are not exactly flat out 24/7. I can't wait to hear the HSU take on this one, they marched on Parliament House calling for more ambos on the road. Well now you've got them!!

Posted by: Ex Ambo, Sydney

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

This Government is out of control. These rescue Paramedics are funded by the the insurance of the people they rescue. We can not afford to lose even one of these fantastic Paramedics. We need more not less. Saying they will be redeployed elsewhere is a cop out. We know the NSWFB will always do a good job and we need more of these men and women as well. Cost cutting will lose lives.

Posted by: Marilyn Grass, Frenchs Forest

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

Let's not get ahead of ourselves - The public will be no worse off here. Paramedics will still attend all rescue scenes in their primary capacity as medical carers. They'll still be the ones inside the car at a car accident taking care of the patient while the rescue operators operate the cutting tools. In the end we'll end up saving money as tax payers too, because we're reducing the needless duplication of resources between different government departments.

Posted by: Bob Smith, Sydney

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

Bill is guilty of only telling part of the story. Fire Services are not stretched, it is the Ambulance Service that is stretched. Fire Brigade Rescue Officers are trained to the same levels of rescue as Ambulance Rescue officers, so there will be no loss of service. In fact there will be better service as the NSWFB has much better rescue resources than the Ambulance Service. The NSWFB operates 166 rescue units, the ASNSWhas 14. The NSWFB has 1833 rescue operators, the ASNSW has 181.

Posted by: Greg Peters, Sydney

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

I dont know where these paramedic rescue blokes get their information about the firies but i can assure you that we are more than capable and have sufficient resources to absorb the rescue responsibilities of the Ambos. Every Firefighter in nsw recieves training in mva extrication and every fire appliance carries rescue gear, and then we have the "primary" rescue stations which carry more specialised gear and recieve extra training. Paramedics can do what they do best, take care of patients....

Posted by: Rob McIntosh, Campbelltown

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

Just a quick one. First do not agree RESCUE should stay. Second re low staff.. There are 200+ Students at a University in NSW that are studying Paramedics. The Ambulance service should go nd get them... any one who has done 2 or so years should be taken from the uni and given jobs with the ambulance Service... The can finnish Uni vid distance edu. After a year of uin training they have skills that first year training Paramedics have who are trained by NSW Ambulance. Save NSWAS in training

Posted by: This Sucks, NSW

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

Reba Meagher, witch and hag, lame excuses, fascist bag. Nuff said

Posted by: Brendan Richards, Quakers Hill

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

this is all getting a bit petty isn't it? It now sounds like the ambo's and firies bitching at each other over who does the rescue. It seems to work fine now,, why doesn't the govt just leave it like it is? And for those people who say that we don't need paramedics trained in rescue....you'll change your tune when it is you or a loved one who needs medical care at a rescue scene..won't you?

Posted by: david Gibbons, wollongong

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

I am a fire fighter from the sydney area who for one would welcome the ambo's taking over the rescue function state wide. I believe that the emphasis that the NSWFB is attempting to place on our recue role is taking away from OUR core role which is fighting fires and HAZMAT incidents. I agree with david from Wollongong, in that if i was trapped , say on a cliff, I would want a rescue paramedic coming to me, not a fireman who knows how to abseil!! Be real about it, leave ambulance rescue alone

Posted by: fire fighter, sydney

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

Paramedics will still respond to car accidents and treat patientsso nothing has changed in that area. To the people who happen to have an accident in any other state or whilst travelling overseas more than likely you will be rescued by a firefighter and treated on scene by an ambulance paramedic. Fire services provide rescue services in all states of Australia and 90% of countries overseas. The NSW Ambulance service is the only Ambulance service in the world that still or did provide rescue.

Posted by: Edgar Britt, NSw

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

Guys, stop this Fire vs Ambulance bickering. The problem here is Reba Meagher and the NSW Government who are gutless and act before they think of the consequences. I can tell you now that there is plenty of talk on the road from Paramedics looking at alternative careers because of the lack of support and ignorance from the Iemma Government ignoring the Health System crisis.

Posted by: Paramedic Hammo, Sydney

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

Having worked as a fireman for 15 years I know exactly how much time they have on their hands (sleep 80-90% of your night shifts and watch movies through your dayshift) and how exited they get using their toys at accidents. MVA's are the only one response situation that people seem to be talking about. The Rescue Paramedics go anywhere and everywhere. The primary goal and focus of any rescue is surely Patient Care and so it makes perfect sense to keep these Rescue stations open if not expanded.

Posted by: Old Smokie Burns, Sydney

Wednesday, 03 September 2008

What station are you at...you sleep 90% of the time...quick ...get me posted there. Ive been a firie for 18 years and rescue accredited for 11. i have worked along side my Ambo mates at hundreds of rescues. The firies are on the tools and the Ambos take care of the patients. We always take our guidance regarding extrication from the Ambos are they are the experts in the patients health. We do the rest. Lets stop bashing each other and focus on the real enemy.

Posted by: Stan Pipe, Sydney

 

Wednesday, 03 September 2008