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Saturday, 30 August 2008

Coalition will change position on climate change: Turnbull

27/07/2008 1:11:00 PM.  | AAP
The federal coalition will change its policy on climate change as the inevitable result of changing international factors, treasury spokesman Malcolm Turnbull says.

The coalition has been split over emissions trading and is set to thrash out the issue at meetings in Canberra this week.

The main point of contention is whether Australia should implement a genuine emissions trading scheme if heavy polluters do not agree to take action first.

"Inevitably our policy will change," Mr Turnbull told the Nine Network.

"Political parties' policies are a living thing, they change from time to time."

He said changing international factors, including a new US government, would see the coalition take a fresh climate policy to the next election.

Mr Turnbull denied senior Liberals had taken different positions on emissions trading recently.

"We've all been singing off the same song sheet," he said.

Mr Turnbull reiterated his version of the Liberals' policy, which is that emissions trading should start by 2012 "in advance of, but in the expectation of" a global agreement on climate change.

Leader Brendan Nelson wants Australia to bring in genuine emissions trading only after other countries have agreed to act.

Mr Turnbull denied there was a difference of opinion.

"I have not been able to discern in anything Brendan Nelson has said publicly ... since he's been leader, or indeed that I've said publicly, any difference."

Asked if adopting Dr Nelson's policy would make the Liberals less green than they had been under John Howard, Mr Turnbull replied: "Well he wasn't known for being too green, that's for sure."

COMMENTS

Sunday, 27 July 2008

In the wake of a Green Paper that is devoid of any detail, it is appropriate for the Opposition to (1) reconsider/modify its position & (2) take its time on establishing that position. Rudd wants to play games and rush this one, and that is dangerous considering the potential disaster awaiting out businesses if we make ourselves completely uncompetitive. Rudd is a climate panicker!

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

 

Sunday, 27 July 2008

Oh Malcontent Spinbull. The COALitions policy has always been to be anti-environment disquised by flip flop politicking. Unless of course, they are actually going to admit that that is indeed their policy. What this does show though is that Spinbull is not prepared to stand up for his beliefs, that is a real Liberal Leadership contender quality though. Brengun is just prepared to destroy the world in his egotistical quest for power, he's just like a mini Howard. Disgusting stuff really.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Sunday, 27 July 2008

Graeme Henderson-Every time you open your mouth it’s like taking a lid of a garbage bin. It is only ignorant people like your self and politically motivated people like your hero Rudd the Dudd that will stick to a misguided belief. The reports on so called Climate Change are changing daily and the Scientific Community is divided as to the anthropogenic content of greenhouse gasses. It is prudent to change ones ideas based on the latest acceptable evidence. Speaking of being anti- environment you will recall, if you have a brain, that it was Victorian Labor, egged on by Rudd, that stalled the Coalition’s Murray Darling rescue package.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

Monday, 28 July 2008

the scientific community is divided on climate change. 99% to 1% . when its 50\50 the skeptics may have an argument.the documentary ''the great global warming swindle'' has had its credibility shot to pieces .most of the scientists in it were either retired, their credentials exaggerated, or they were misrepresented. they used temperature charts nearly 20 years old and were paid by organizations connected to the oil industry. ''ideological'' opposition to climate change is not scientific.

Posted by: trevor crook, wiley park

Monday, 28 July 2008

Trevor - where does your data "99% to 1%" come from? Isn't that statement simply an endorsement of the rhetorical path that this fool of a PM is dragging us? Did YOU read the Evans report? He's a well credentialled scientist. Just doesn't happen to agree with Rudd (who, incidentally is NOT a scientist...he's a bureaucrat!). If we add in India and China, then I think your target of 50%/50% is well exceeded.

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Monday, 28 July 2008

trevor crook, wiley park - 'Only committed Al Gore followers believe that 'The great global warming swindle' was debunked. It is the Global warming pushers that are out of date. The greatest advocate for Global Warming-Al Gore is benefiting financially from his scaremongering. Rudd is only in it because he thinks it gives him a political advantage and his mate Ross Garnaut has been paid for his reports-so they are just as mercenary as the so called sceptics.Ideological acceptance of man made climate change is not scientific.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Sunday, 27 July 2008

Henderson even uses Ruddspeak (flip flop). Rudd and his disciples are incapable of reviewing their position in the light of all the new evidence. Rudd will take us down (and down!) this path simply because that it what he said (even if he later knows it to be wrong). Remember, carbon emissions FOLLOWED the last period of warming. Read the data.

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

 

Monday, 28 July 2008

Graeme Henderson, what you've got to realise mate is that Live News and 2GB preach to the 70+ fuddy duddy Liberal Toshes who have no idea of reality. At least you do, and I do, and the 65% of people happy with Kevin Rudd's performance do.

Posted by: Fred Nerk, Maitland

Monday, 28 July 2008

Fred Nerk-If as you say Live news and 2GB cater for elderly Liberals, and that’s debatable, they would be the only media outlet in the Country to do so. All the rest are catering to the left. The biggest culprit in this left wing bias is the nationally funded ABC.As far as your reference to the aged-are you planning to die young?-if not with a bit of luck you will be in that age bracket too. And if you are happy with a collapsing economy you deserve what you get.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Monday, 28 July 2008

Rudd is an opportunist climate panicker. Gore is an emissions liar. Wong is a good barrister (yet to hear her answer the question..."what is the actual link between CO2 emissions and global warming"). Evans report should be read widely.

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

 

Wednesday, 30 July 2008

i am not sure what percentage of scientists are pro man made global warming ,but its definitely a large majority. the ggws was deeply flawed scientifically in ways too complicated to discuss here.what al gore makes in profit is dwarfed by what the oil industry makes. both india and china are aware of the dangers ofman made global warming but are addicted to economic growth and power. who in their right mind believes that pumping crap into the atmosphere for 200 years has not had an effect?

Posted by: trevor crook, wiley park

 

Wednesday, 30 July 2008

did not read the evans report. probably a well meaning man but his opinion is not the final word in the debate. michael faraday, a scientist on par with newton,,predicted what effect carbon emissions would have on climate in the 19th century.only a third of manmade emissions are absorbed by natural sinks. what happens to the rest?just going on that indicates co2 build up. and that causes warming.why did the ggws stop its study of climate charts at 1980? because after that ,warming increases .??

Posted by: trevor crook, wiley park

 
 

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