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Friday, 29 August 2008

ShineGirl: Hillsong at it again

1/08/2008 4:30:00 PM.  | Tim Brunero
Fresh from closing their Gold Coast mental health care facility for young women, where they cured anorexia with exorcisms, they’re now charging public schools to teach troubled girls beauty tips.

The program, “ShineGirl”, has Hillsong trying to improve troubled girls self-esteem in prisons and schools by teaching them how to put on make-up, do their hair and nails and walk with books balanced on their heads.

But teachers and psychologists have attacked the program, saying it re-enforces gender stereotypes, isn’t being carried out with proper parental consent and is simply a clandestine way of getting religion into schools.

The whole shebang has echoes of the Pentecostal Church’s ‘Mercy Ministries’, a program where young women, struggling with drug addiction, eating disorders and mental health problems were promised cost-free, live-in treatment.

But many of the girls went to the media after “free” meant signing over Centrelink payments to the group and “treatment” didn’t include proper access to the promised legion of doctors, psychologists and social workers.

Instead, many girls found they were kept virtual prisoner in a suburban house, with restricted access to friends and family and taught that prayer, singing and housework were the solutions to their problems.

Some told LIVENEWS.com.au they were also subjected to “exorcisms” and say they were counselled by amateurs - bible studies students who had no qualifications to treat mental illness.

Some of the girls told me the program made them sicker; sending them into a spiral of self-harm and depression.

Like the ‘Mercy Ministries’ program most of the facilitators that deliver ‘ShineGirl’ in Sydney classrooms have no university counselling qualifications.

At some schools, like Alexandria Park, Glenwood and Cheltenham Girls, the program is run by recruits from Hillsong’s own ‘leadership college’.

The program’s webpage is full of the kind of self-development guff Anthony Robbins would be proud of – with slogans like: “She can be anything she believes she can be” and “A girl is a verb”.

A read of the website reveals the aims of ShineGirl are as amorphous as its techniques:

“These… experiential programs are built on life principles and are practical, life-equipping and values forming.”

Maybe Hillsong could best help public schools by donating some of the tax-free millions they earn from Christian music sales to our struggling schools to help with maintenance and qualified counsellors?

Or maybe the Church would be better off funding training for their staff through conventional social work and mental health educational institutions, instead of trying to extend their own cloistered empire?

At worst, the use of such people is an insult to the teachers and school psychologists who study for years so they can work competently with our children.

Just because people mean well, doesn’t mean they’re always equipped to do well.

COMMENTS

Friday, 01 August 2008

Happy, Clappy, Lets All Fall Down!!!!!

Posted by: Brenton Head, Hawthorn

 

Friday, 01 August 2008

Okay it may not be proper for any Religious group to exploit people, if that is what is happening here. Our secular society has become overly judgmental in lumping all people that follow a religious belief as outcasts. We hear expressions such as 'extreme right wing religious nuts' etc.Teachers say that Hillsong is using this program as a clandestine way of getting religion into schools. So what has the secular system been able to do stop these young women from getting into trouble in the first place? Are all teachers innocent when it comes to introducing their particular life philosophies and politics into their schools? If Religious schools are so evil why is it that so many parents, at great financial sacrifice, are pulling their children out of the public system to send them to religious schools?

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Friday, 01 August 2008

I didn't pay my exorcist once; I got repossessed.

Posted by: David Ready, Padstow

Friday, 01 August 2008

love it.

Posted by: Tim Brunero, Sydney

 

Friday, 01 August 2008

Give them a break - let's look at the positive in all of this. With unemployment a real problem in our country, at least all the unqualified, abusive, manipulative, head cases who lost their jobs as Mercy Ministries staff when the Queensland home closed, can have job opportunities as Shine "teachers."

Posted by: Angie Barlow, Sydney

Friday, 01 August 2008

you make me laugh

Posted by: Tim Brunero, Sydney

 

Friday, 01 August 2008

Tim is it so strange someone wants to help people and not have an agenda. Surely even a lefty like you can understand that if a religious organisation wants to help young people then they will have certain principles they will teach and embody. Suspicion is healthy but in your case it's bordering on the paranoid, if your attitude to religious organisations was shard by the government then no one would get any assitance and great organisations like the Salvos and Oasis would not exist.

Posted by: Ray Kington, Sydney

Friday, 01 August 2008

It's not about having an agenda. It's about having the appropriate training to charge for a service, and to work with kids.

Posted by: Tim Brunero, Sydney

 

Friday, 01 August 2008

Just had a look at the website, what's your problem with it? Identify themselves as valuable Understand they have something important to contribute Make good decisions that take into consideration themselves, those around them, and society more generally Practically identify dreams and hopes that they would like to move towards in their future Build confidence, self-esteem and self-worth Learn how to tackle obstacles that may come their way including bullying and peer pressur

Posted by: Thea Smith, Wyong

Friday, 01 August 2008

The website isn't the problem.

Posted by: Tim Brunero, Sydney

 

Friday, 01 August 2008

Thea Smith, you are an idiot. A cult group like Hillsong should not be allowed near any school children to start with. Hillsong only prey on people who are troubled, poor and uneducated. Uneducated people will fall for a website like that. I hope the government revoke their tax free status so that we can use this money for qualified people to help those who need help. Well done Tim and Livenews for exposing the cult once again. They have caused so much damage without consequence.

Posted by: Andy Shaver, Sydney

 

Friday, 01 August 2008

I am not part of Hill Song but I think they do good work. Better than the government. What would we say about the government if we only considered Heiner Affair material? My experience working with troubled teens leads me to the understanding that not everything works all the time, but some things work quite well. If the suggestion is being made that Hill Song is trying to profit from the poor then I don't respect the argument. I also don't think the government sets out to be irresponsible.

Posted by: Happy Fun Ball, Carramar/Sydney

 

Friday, 01 August 2008

My boss is a minister, his wife is also a minister in their church. I am a human being, I believe in humans. I also believe any religion that worships gods is a blight on Humanity. Allack and alas. poor me, my boss wants to implant his quasi-religious beliefs on morals into our workforce. Pray for me fellow Humans, may his days be numbered, and a pox on his strange christian religion cheers from Dullsville P.S. Hillsong will self detruct if they try to embezzle the Government.

Posted by: Myles N, Perth

Friday, 01 August 2008

Yes Miles, we will pray for you, we will pray to God.

Posted by: Nida Crapp, Canberra

 

Friday, 01 August 2008

As a psychology student, this really disturbs me. Organised religion is worrying at the best of times. It's even worse when it interferes and pushes agendas like this. They're damaging people in very serious ways.

Posted by: Zoe S, Wollongong

 

Friday, 01 August 2008

Tim, I once read an inscription on a headstone that said "as you are now so once was I, as I am now soon you will be!" I too like you had firm opinions and extreme predjudices against Christians which were unfounded and festered in my own biggoted head. Fortunatetly for me one of those "Hillsong" people cared enough for me in my hour of need and rescued me. I will now pray for you because we are not unalike and I forgive you because you don't know what you are doing, your Christian Comrade, Russ

Posted by: Russell Cunningham, Newcastle

Friday, 01 August 2008

Russ, it sounds like you don't really know what you're talking about. Tim is doing a good thing by exposing these fraudsters for what they are. I have a family member who personally experienced Mercy Ministries and came out damaged and distraught. These people are hypocrites - they claim to be Christians and yet their lives reflect nothing that the Bible teaches.

Posted by: Angie B, Sydney

Saturday, 02 August 2008

Angie, I am responding to Tim's article about shine and in a more general sense I am responding to Tim's obvious predjudice against Christians and also his predjudice against those of us who were not fortunate enough to be privilidged with a University education. I am constantly suffering at the hands of "Intelectuals" who try to make my life a misery when I have done nothing to harm them and they think that because they went to University that they have a right to determine my faith for me.cont

Posted by: Russell Cunningham, Newcastle

Saturday, 02 August 2008

Russ, I don't see Tim victimizing you at all or even lashing out at those who don't have University degrees. What he is doing is bringing attention to the fact that people without appropriate qualifications should not be running mental health treatment facilities, nor playing "counsellor/psychologist" to our school children. It is dangerous.

Posted by: Angie B, Sydney

 

Saturday, 02 August 2008

Confidence, self esteem and self confidence dont come from using makeup or walking with a book on your head. Maybe we should have a similar program for boys with low self esteem. Amazing how we keep reinforcing and instilling in young women that self esteem = image, worth = image confidence = image. Hopefully before I die I will see young women with all these things because they have had an upbringing that reinforces them as valuable human beings with the emphasis on HEALTHY lifestyle, not image

Posted by: susan lowe, gippsland

 

Saturday, 02 August 2008

CONT : How much more parenting responsibilities are we going to ask our teachers to take on, and educate our children at the same time. All children need to grow in a loving nurturing environment, made to feel special and loved, taught how to live a healthy lifestyle, and encouraged in all they do.Schools cannot replace parents. Girls need to be given better role models other than the Hollywood brats. They also need to be taught the sole purpose of their existence isnt to please the male eye.

Posted by: susan lowe, gippsland

Sunday, 03 August 2008

Which is probably why we shouldn't ephasise make up and hair styling...

Posted by: Ian Etherington, Rosedale

 

Saturday, 02 August 2008

Please do your research properly. The program that you are referring to was run by Mercy Ministries, which is a separate organisation that has nothing to do with Hillsong, apart from the fact that some of its staff may attend hillsong. hillsong also provides funds to Mercy, but then again, so do lots of other companies, including LG I believe. to compare the Shine program to the Mercy ministries program is hence inaccurate, since they are completely independent and not even run by the same company.

Posted by: David T, Sydney

Saturday, 02 August 2008

"Mercy Ministries has nothing to do with Hillsong"???!!!! What planet are you on? Mercy Ministries was brought to Australia by Darlene and Mark Zschech and Hillsong are "Partners" with Mercy Ministries. Hillsong happily laid claim to Mercy Ministries in many interviews and articles, before all the abuse was exposed that is. Can't have it both ways David.

Posted by: Bron B, NSW

Saturday, 02 August 2008

"Mercy Ministries has nothing to do with Hillsong"???!!!! What planet are you on? Mercy Ministries was brought to Australia by Darlene and Mark Zschech and Hillsong are "Partners" with Mercy Ministries. Hillsong happily laid claim to Mercy Ministries in many interviews and articles, before all the abuse was exposed that is. Can't have it both ways David.

Posted by: Bron B, NSW

Sunday, 03 August 2008

LG recently distanced themselves from Mercy when Mercy's activities were exposed to media scrutiny. In The Sydney Morning Herald on March 18 this year LG said (after Mercy used the LG logo on it's website) that there was "no formal agreement or long-standing relationship between the two groups" and that it would "review its relationship with any company that was operating in a questionable manner." Rebel Sport and Bunnings Warehouse made similar statements.

Posted by: Tim Brunero, Sydney

 

Saturday, 02 August 2008

I have done the Shine training program, the beauty aspect of Shine is only for 3 of the 8 sessions it also teaches girls about making good decisions and the strength that comes from being able to do that, it also gets the girls to think about their dreams and goals for the future, funny how it's only highlighted in this article the 'beauty' aspect and not the whole thing, your prejudice against Hillsong comes through very strongly so much for "unbiased journalism"

Posted by: Colette Holmes, henty

Saturday, 02 August 2008

Clearly Hillsong doesn't teach you what an opinion article is

Posted by: Sean Bradney-George, Bellingen

Sunday, 03 August 2008

Sean, good one, and your statement actually brought up an interesting question: why are they only addressing issues with girls, and why the supposed "three out of eight" classes on beauty? If they really wanted to make a difference they would be working on breaking down gender barriers and developing the critical thinking skills that allow people to spot the difference between, say, a news article, a feature article and an opinion piece.

Posted by: Amy BG, Brisbane

 

Tuesday, 05 August 2008

I really dont care who is running them, they still spout the same rhetoric that causes low self self esteem in young girls. 3 out 8 are "beauty" related, and it is a training program ? maybe the 3 "beauty" sessions would be better served teaching girls to understand their worth as human beings. image and "beauty" are half the reason why children as young as 6 are on diets. one way you can convince me this is confidence building, is to run one for boys as well, including 3 "handsome" sessions.

Posted by: susan lowe, gippsland

Thursday, 14 August 2008

Susan, i would actually like to point out that there is a program similar to this run for young men. It is called "Strength" and i have seen the benefits that it has produced for boys in high school. Shine is an amazing program and i have seen firsthand the way that it has turned around the lives of at-risk teenage girls in my own community. Before you insist on ridiculing something like this, perhaps you should research both sides of the story, instead of having a biased opinion.

Posted by: Amy Elkin, QLD

 

Monday, 11 August 2008

this does ntohing but to encoruge materialism to young teenagers,what a nonsence rubbish and forcing is not what christianity is about !!verydissaponited about hillsong this time Britannia Rule The Wave!! God Save The Queen

Posted by: danny lam, newington

 
 

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