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Market bounceback may be short-lived, economists warn

1/10/2008 12:05:00 PM.  | LIVENEWS.com.au

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There are warnings the optimism on Australian markets may be short-lived, while economists predict a cut to official interest rates.

After a horror day on the stock markets, Wall Street has bounced back overnight recovering more than half of its record losses.

A US Democratic Senate aid has also announced there will be a vote on the financial bailout package later in the week.

But local analysts are warning the package could easily be rejected again.

In response to the financial crisis, the Reserve Bank is tipped to reduce official interest rates by 0.5 per cent this week, but Treasurer Wayne Swan has told the ABC, he won't attempt to force commercial banks to pass on the full rate cut.

“I would encourage all of our banks to act as responsibly and as competitively as they possibly can,” he said.

“Some reports this morning, that the banks may not pass on any of any proposed cut from the RBA are simply incredible.

“I can’t believe that the banks would behave in that way.”

But, the Opposition says the banks should be pressured to follow the lead of the RBA.

8:00 AM

Australian investors are being warned there are tough economic times ahead, despite predictions of a rally on the sharemarket today.

Wall Street has recovered half of its losses overnight, after US President George W Bush urged Congress to pass the massive financial bailout package when it meets on Thursday.

Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull has told 2GB’s Alan Jones we're well placed to survive the crisis, but it's going to be tough.

“We are in stormy waters, we are going to get wet – we’ve got a strong economy, we won’t sink.

“But we’ve got to recognise it’s not going to be easy in the months and years ahead.”

There are also claims the Reserve Bank will have to cut official interest rates by half a percentage point next week, in reaction to the turmoil on US markets.

COMMENTS

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Lucky that no one is decimating the budget just to make cheap political photo opps for themselves then?

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

 

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

I find the Idea of " Bail outs" repungnant! The fact the banks have INSURANCE to cover their greedy a*** says it all. Let the Creditors fork it out, thats what they're for and why people use them. To bail out, is to legalise the crimes committed by the banking sector and reward them with more Golded handshake deals. We the Tax payer will NOT benefit from bailouts at any stage of a financial meltdown, created by those in the greed n feed "banker" industry.

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Nick Again: I'm sure you'll be glad there were no bail-outs when your bank fails and you all your money. The creditors can't fork it out, there's simply not enough money in the markets - it's called a "Credit Crisis" for a reason. So rather than making EVERYONE suffer this fall-out, maybe we can try to minimize the impact? Wouldn't it be nice if the economy take a huge slump? Just a thought... just a thought...

Posted by: the Big Picture, Dandenong

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Big Picture: Credit means just that, " Credit crisis" means there isnt enough cash for creditors to supply for CREDIT. Perhaps Big picture you should research for the Bigger picture? Whilst at it , research how this " Bail out" of G.Bush's will actually work. Then Tell me again what his $700 bill will actually do. 1 Bank is in the grip of loosing all, it's ALL hapens to be Bigger than the USA foriegn debt. Again Big Picture, look around at some SERIOUS Finance opinion NOT GUV. Look at who profit

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Nick, a couple of small points. (1) the crisis has its base in the US, not here. (2) bank regulatory requirements are tougher here than the US (thanks to Costello + others). (3) the US "bailout" is underscored with a "no incentive" for wrong doers. It would be useful if your entry referred to either the US or Australia as "general" anti-capitalist rants don't really help. After all, welfare in this country would fall apart if it were not for a hugely successful capitalist base.

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Friday, 03 October 2008

Geoff Bolton, Given I was talking about the $700 bill package where else would I be referring too? No rewards eh? The buying of TOXIC Stock is not a reward? Re mortgaging a loan to the benefit of the banks in trouble for overlending, not a reward? Capitalism got us to this point didnt it? Are you suggesting I'm on welfare Geoff? Socialism will also provide welfare.Its the Fact the Speculative marketers got us here they should pay the dues. All speculators/banks run insurance dont they Bolts?

Posted by: Nick Again, maryborouogh

 

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Turnball makes more sence then lip liking Rudd

Posted by: robert juohnstone, katoomba

 

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Has anyone seen or heard of Julie Bishop lately??? Maybe we should call Missing Persons??? Or has she just gone AWOL ??? One would have thought this was a good time for her to come out with Advice during these troubled Economic Times??? Is she still Shadow Treasurer?? Or is she barred from Speaking?? Calling Julie Bishop Come out Come out from wherever you are!Me Thinks she has bitten off more than she can cope with?

Posted by: Paul Keating, Dapto

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Paul Keating-Julie Bishop's absence, for whatever reason, is better than what we are getting from the dopey Swan. He is more or less encouraging the commercial banks not to cut interest rates in the event of a cut by the RBA.Rudd and Swan are like headless chooks-they don't know whether to talk up or talk down the economy-so they are doing both. Rudd went to the UN, a waste of taxpayer’s money, and told no one what every body knows any way.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Dapto, please watch what's going on. Bishop was door stopped for an interview yesterday on the financial crisis. Keep your eyes open and she'll be out there today. What should be of more concern (to you) is Swan letting the banks off the hook and not urging them to pass on any RBA cut. Or perhaps you should worry about Rudd Mr "I do everything myself" not letting Swan open hios mouth yesterday at his press conference. People in glasshouses Dapto!

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Bolts & Desmond: My point is that Bishop has gone Missing during Extraordinary Troubled Economic Times.I'm not sure if she has what it takes to be a treasurer. Okay she had a bad Week last week,No she had a terrible week! But she needs to step up to the Plate again and not be frightened of taking another Hit,She is of course only Learning so we expect her to make a few Mistakes.

Posted by: Paul Keating, Dapto

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Dapto, read and listen.. BISHOP HASN'T GONE MISSING! You are walking round with your eyes and ears shut. On the contrary SWAN SHOULD GO MISSING, PLEEEEEZE!

Posted by: Geoff Bolton, Lane Cove

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Paul Keating- We had the same Extraordinary Troubled Economic Times the week that Rudd went overseas-he had no compelling reason to go-his speech at the UN was an embarrassing joke .He even ran away from his Parliamentary duties-Julie Bishop was there. I have not noticed any comment from you about that. Even if he was here it would not have made any difference- Rudd, Swan and company are economic neuters anyway. All we get from them are excuses-John Howard and World conditions are to blame so we cannot do any thing.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Bolts: Please don't use so many Capital Letters.I have to keep taking my glasses off to Focus.Swan is a Dooer Bishop is a Gonner and a pretend Gunner.If it was a fight between Swan and Bishop then Bishops corner have thrown the WHITE TOWEL in.Have a Great Day.

Posted by: Paul Keating, Dapto

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Paul Keating-Agree Swan is a dooer-a dooer of all the wrong things-he has not done 'working families' any favours by paving the way for the Commercial Banks to hold back on interest rate cuts. I tried to restrict the use of CAPITALS.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Mr. Swann was reported by the Herald as stating we should not expect the banks to pass on any cut. The man is clearly a dope- if the banks do not pass on rate cuts the economy will grind to a complete halt.

Posted by: Jack Hanrahan, Hornsby

 

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

robert juohnstone, katoomba. Spinbull is just stating the glaringly bloody obvious. The only reason he is making these inane statements is to keep in the news to make it look as if he is the Great Leader that he really isn't. It's called Grandstanding, he has offered nothing of any import, except to acknowledge that they, the Libs are deliberately blowing a huge hole in the budget.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Mr Henderson sounds like you sir are also guilty of grandstanding your self. The reason why banks can't definately pass on the rate costs is due to the international cost of funds being the real reason behind wwhat interest rates they set. Currently international funds are becoming increasingly more expensive with such high risk in relation to bad debts etc. Currently Banks will loose money/not break even if they pass on the RBA interest rates.

Posted by: D McK, Gold Coast

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

D McK, interested in buying some swamp I am trying to sell? Seriously the banks can afford to pass on the cut and have sufficient margins in their rates to still be quite profitable... just not as profitable in the short term. In fact if they do not pass it on, there will be negative growth in the economy and guess what that will do to their profitability?

Posted by: Jack Hanrahan, Hornsby

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Boring henderson

Posted by: hender grahemson, vegipatch

 

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

I am sure the bank's shareholders will insist that the banks pass on the entire rate cut. Why wouldn't they?

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Of Course they will hand it on Graeme, The Banks are well known for doing whjats in the best interests of the consumer? I find it hard to see why anyone would doubt them... curious though is the thought we're told our banks are solid and have noting to fear in the " credit crisis" are suddenly in need of " Holding" high rates to covewr loses they aren't experiencing? Perhaps the Rates will be held high " in case" something goes wrong...like the Fuel prices being held high when the oil 's cheap??

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

 

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Paul Keating, Dapto. I see that you were fooled by the whole front bench concept under Spinbulldung. Malcontent is a one man band, no one knows as much as he does. It must be embarrassing for Bishop to have him making all of these statements about finance though, it shows how much respect the party has for her as Treasury Spokesperson. I think the next leadership spill is not too far away, this is exactly why people were reluctant to support Malcontent.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Surely you would be better asking why Mr Swan isnt going to pressure the banks to pass on the cut rather than worrying yourself with what Turnbull and Bishop are doing. Why not ask Swan why he cant believe banks would behave that way, why he wont pressure them if they dont pass the cut on. He is after all the current treasurer is he not ?

Posted by: susan lawe, gippsland

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

More to the point, I think Mr Swan has bitten off more than he can cope with. Pressuring the banks to pass on the cut would be to hard for him, beyond his capabilities.

Posted by: susan lawe, gippsland

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Graeme Henderson-And what makes a pinko like you think that you know what is going on inside the Liberal Party? When you wake up from your Hitler nightmares, which you seem to suffer from quite frequently, take a look at Rudd and you will see what a one man band is like. There have been rumblings from the Unions that Rudd’s IR changes don't go far enough for them so Julie could be preparing the dagger for Rudd’s back. Leadership tiffs in Government are a lot more serious than it is within the opposition.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Slowe, I don't care what you think, not only are you an extreme right wing idiot. You also qualify as a common or garden variety idiot. But the main reason I don't care what you say you think is that you have a proven history on this site of telling lies. We have not forgotten that and you will never get your credibility back.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

No suprises that Henderson and Keating following the Labor line of "when you have nothing sensible to say - attack the opposition" Anyway, if we get a rate cut, it is highly unlikely that the banks will pass on the full cut. They have already said as much and it doesn't matter how much swan rabbits on - the banks have stopped listening to him. His tiresome retoric about the other mob and a demonstrated lack of understanding makes him a laughing stock in financial circles.

Posted by: Pete 2, North Sydney

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill. Understanding what is happening in the Liberal party is not rocket science. Nelson has refused to rule out contesting the leadership, and Spinbulldung is stomping all over Bishops political grave by making all these announcements in her stead. Look and learn Des, but it's best if you wait for your brain transplant before you try making more statements, your stupidity is showing.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Yeah Des you're right, and thanks for reminding me about the shambles that was the Liberal Party at APEC 2007. Knives galore and not one MP with the guts to use one on the 'beloved leader'. And Hycinth charging in to stand by her man and put the necessary lead in his pencil so he could stare the rebellious swine down. May it live lobng in history as the lowest depths plumbed by Australian politics.

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

hear hear graeme

Posted by: james bingham, seaforth

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

Graeme Henderson-There that wasn't hard was it lad-you managed to get through full sentences without mentioning Hitler and the Nazis-theres hope for you yet-keep practicing. The Liberal are settled down-they have always said that Peter Costello-the Worlds best Treasurer was first preference and in his absence Malcolm is the man-he will destroy Rudd. darren carrow-You are talking about something that didn't happen and now cannot happen but the Gillard/Rudd scenario is very real-watch his back.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

Thursday, 02 October 2008

I hope you don't have a driver's licence Des, you've only got one eye mate. Are you really an 'APEC Lib Meltdown' denier? After so many others of your pantheon of minor dieties (the Rodent's front bench as was) have actually come out and said they tried to give the Rodent the shove, but no-one but Hockey even had the ticker to tell him he was an albatross haniging around the neck of the party?? Seriously.

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

Thursday, 02 October 2008

darren carrow-Even if I only had one eye I would have a lot more sight than you-you are absolutely blind in your bias. Again the proof of anything lies in the results. John Howard was never deposed as the Liberal leader. John Howard has left the building and the current focus is on Rudd and Gillard and maybe a few ex Union heavyweights lurking with knives unsheathed-people like Combe and Shorten. The rumblings have already started-not even twelve months out. Have a good day.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

PK: Julie Bishop has been sighted at the LOST office in Canberra.Apparently she has been looking for her creditability that she lost lost week,She hasn't found it yet.LOL

Posted by: Missing Persons Unit, Canberra

 

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

susan, youre sarah palin doll has arrived in the mail. lalalala

Posted by: stupad lawe, upuredate

 

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

'But local analysts are warning the package could easily be rejected again'. Who are these local analysts and why did they not warn 12 months ago before the Markets started going sour-just think how much money could have been saved if they advised investors to put their money into cash.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill